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2012 election post-mortem: Part 2

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This is the second in a series of Daily Republic columns designed to help the struggling Republican Party return to mainstream American values. Last week, we discussed the importance of embracing reality; today’s topic: rejecting plutocracy.

I wrote last week: “As we have seen in recent Daily Republic articles and editorial cartoons, right-wing pundits like Bill O’Reilly have claimed that the Republicans lost because America, sadly, has gone from a nation of makers to a nation of takers.” Thomas Sowell’s latest article echoed that theme, “If nonwhite voters can only be gotten by pandering to them with goodies earmarked for them, then Republicans are doomed . . . .” A Daily Republic blogger offered a similar election analysis: “The tax consumers outvoted the tax payers.”

Unfortunately for all those still clinging to shreds of their tattered right-wing bubble, Republican states overwhelmingly take in more federal dollars than they pay in federal income tax, while Democratic states are net givers. Democratic states are the ones giving gifts, in the form of our tax dollars, to the poor Republican states. Fox rhetoric doesn’t fit the facts.

None of these Republican pundits are willing to admit that they lost the election because their candidate and his message rubbed most voters the wrong way. Most Americans could not stomach rich Mitt and his plutocratic, rule-by-wealth economic policies. We witnessed an epic, good-versus-evil battle for our electoral souls in this past election with the Democratic thesis, “We are all in this together,” clashing mightily with the Republican antithesis, “Every man for himself.”

Statewide, Californians responded compassionately, selflessly shouldering the burden of higher taxes, while locally, we Fairfielders showed overwhelming humanity, passing Measure P with a two-thirds majority. Right on cue, Hurricane Sandy demonstrated to voters across this country how we are all interconnected and why politicians from both sides must work together for our common good. It was instantly obvious to all observers that the plutocratic, survival-of-the-fittest approach would not have worked there.

What would the wealthy do if they ruled America?

First, they would reduce taxes that affect them most: income taxes, inheritance taxes, capital gains taxes and corporate taxes. With reduced revenues, government at all levels would be diminished along with their ability to enforce regulations protecting our land, water and air from toxic pollution. Workers’ rights would instantly evaporate, and  safety nets like Social Security and unemployment insurance would be cut. Medicare would become “voucher care.” Product liability and consumer financial protections would also disappear.

The one growth area would be national defense, because, if you are wealthy, wars are extremely profitable.

If you step back and look at the Romney/Paul Ryan economic plans in this plutocratic light, with their tax cuts, government cuts and increased military spending, you will see this vision of an American plutocracy clearly reflected.

I wrote Aug. 20 in my Daily Republic column: “Listen to the rhetoric coming from the rich, their media spokesmen and Republican politicians. They only talk about cutting income tax, corporate tax, dividend tax and tax on interest payments, affecting the wealthy; never about the regressive taxes we normal people pay every day. Consider this: If Ryan’s tax proposals are passed, Mitt Romney’s income tax rate would drop to almost zero. Who picks up the tab? The 99.9 percent of us living in Fairfields all across this nation.”

In the board game Monopoly, we all know that only one person wins and ends up with everybody else’s money and homes. It’s not fun when this game is played for real. Republicans, reject your plutocratic platform; return to the mainstream.

Mike Kirchubel grew up in Fairfield and is the author of “Vile Acts of Evil – Banking in America.” He can be reached at mikirch@comcast.net.

Mike Kirchubel

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  • Former FF residentNovember 26, 2012 - 12:51 am

    If Kool-Aid was distilled you'd be half way through a 12 step program by now. Sadly this wouldn't have been your first trip there.

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  • mike kirchubelNovember 26, 2012 - 6:19 am

    Gary, is that you? Or is there another right-wing bubble-dweller whose debate skills seem locked-in at a third grade level? Rich, perhaps?

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  • rlw895November 26, 2012 - 6:52 am

    Mike: And nearly unintellible too. Maybe it really is a third-grader!

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  • rlw895November 26, 2012 - 6:55 am

    that's "unintelligible"

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  • rlw895November 26, 2012 - 1:57 am

    Nice job, Mike. People who supported Romney need to acknowledge that these are the reasons Romney lost, not the reasons the spin doctors of the right say.

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  • mike kirchubelNovember 26, 2012 - 6:10 am

    Thank you, RLW. I know this isn't as thorough a job on plutocracy as you (or I) were hoping. The issue won't be forgotten.

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  • CD BrooksNovember 26, 2012 - 6:16 am

    Mike couldn't agree more. And thankfully, the majority got it right!

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  • mike kirchubelNovember 26, 2012 - 6:24 am

    Thanks, CD. It seems like FFF resident and the letter to the editor writer are still clinging to shreds of their tattered bubbles.

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  • rlw895November 26, 2012 - 6:45 am

    CD: I kind of renews your faith in America, doesn't it? Then I look at our state and City, and the votes there do too. The bounce has returned to my steps.

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  • rlw895November 26, 2012 - 6:47 am

    Thats "It" not "I." Too early in the morning.

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  • CD BrooksNovember 26, 2012 - 6:49 am

    rlw895, absolutely!

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 26, 2012 - 8:31 am

    CD, Mike and RLW: You guys might be a little premature in your chest-thumping, self-congratulatory victory lap. Better wait 'till the full job-killing effects, higher taxes and higher costs for medical coverage of Obamacare hit us. Better wait 'till people wake up and find out that "medical coverage" will not necessarily translate into medical care. Better wait 'till the 4,100-plus tidal wave of Obama administration business regulations hits in 2013. Better wait 'till mainstream America wakes up and realizes it does not want to become what Obama envisions for it--i.e., a king-sized, Grecian nanny-state. Now, fire away with your withering sarcastic rejoinders.

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  • CD BrooksNovember 26, 2012 - 8:42 am

    Good morning Mr. Chalk! No worries, no whining, the elections are over and America is a better place. It is going to continue getting better as we go along. Have a great day!

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  • amos57November 26, 2012 - 11:13 am

    Spot on Mr Chalk, the only thing you left out was good luck to all of us,will we certainly need it.

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  • rlw895November 26, 2012 - 12:48 pm

    Tom, et al.: No chest thumping here that I see. Relief is more like it. Chest thumping is for "resolute" guys like GWB. You know, real men. Remember "Mission Accomplished?" How about putting aside the popcorn and getting in the game instead of spectating? The only way all the bad things you mention happen is if the Republicans decide, once again, they must ruin the country to save it (for their masters).

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 26, 2012 - 2:28 pm

    Ok. Chest-thumping might be too harsh. Gleeful gloating may be more apt. But I stand by what I said, and nothing the Republicans do or don't do will change the eventual outcomes. Obamacare is the law of the land. The 4,000-plus business regulations are in the pipeline. Thousands of doctors have already indicated they are leaving the medical profession. The EPA is about to go on steroids. More bad news for the economy. The only guy I see refusing to compromise in the run-up to the "fiscal cliff" happens to be the POTUS at this point.

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  • Post Mortem Yes -- we are all DOOMEDNovember 26, 2012 - 7:16 pm

    DOOMED but not necessarily DAMMED. See this.....(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Treasury increased the net debt of the United States $24,327,048,384.38 on the day after Thanksgiving, which equals approximately $211.69 for each of the nation’s 114,916,000 households..............At the close of business last Wednesday, according to the Treasury, the national debt was $16,283,161,895,179.85. On Thanksgiving, the Treasury took the day off and did no borrowing. But on Friday, the Treasury increased the debt of the United States to $16,307,488,943,564.23. That was a one-day increase of $24,327,048,384.38............... The Census Bureau estimated that as of September there were approximately 114,916,000 households in the United States. So, the $24,327,048,384.38 that the Treasury borrowed on Friday equaled about $211.69 per household....... Friday was also the first time in the history of the United States that the debt has topped $16.3 trillion................. When President Barack Obama first took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the national debt stood at $10,626,877,048,913.08. Since then, it has increased by $5,680,611,894,651.15.......... That means that since Obama has been president, the national debt has increased by about $49,432.73 per household............Attention Liberals/Democrats/Progressives.....What actions should President Obama take to deal with the debt problem?

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  • cliff bensonNovember 26, 2012 - 7:58 pm

    Mike...a bit late reading your column today...but thanx for another intelligent and informed presentation.

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  • mike kirchubelNovember 27, 2012 - 7:05 am

    Thanks, Cliff. I would like to point out others here that there is no chest thumping, only an attempt to bring the Republican Party back to reality. It seems as though they have been watching Fox a bit too much and are starting to believe some of the garbage they spew. With both major parties in touch with reality, the chances of agreement and progress are increased.

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  • rlw895November 27, 2012 - 11:03 am

    Tom: No gleeful gloating either (one can only imagine, and contrast, what we would be getting from "Marci," "Gary," and their ilk if it had gone the other way). Relief and happiness and a renewed desire to fix things is what I feel. In that regard, there is nothing the Democrats have done--or haven't done--that can't be fixed with Republican support. We get suboptimal results when the Republicans don't engage in useful ways. I don't expect--and no one should expect--the Democrats to capitulate to the Republicans simply because the Republicans have the power to obstruct and have demonstrated a willingness to use that obstructionist power to the detriment of the country. It's a reckless, dangerous, and unpatriotic game of chicken the Republicans have played the last four years, culminating in the insane debt-ceiling battle last year. I believe the Republicans' willingness to sacrifice the country to their ideology or rich masters was a big reason they did so poorly in the 2012 election. I don't know how they recapture some high ground, but continuing to adhere to the "trickle down" theory and using that to defend tax breaks for the wealthy and high income earners is not it.

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  • CD BrooksNovember 27, 2012 - 2:42 pm

    Rlw895, can you just imagine the rants from the right had they won this thing? You only need remember the wild accusations and hysterical charges when they thought they had something, anything against Obama. In the end, they were just the usual lies. It is difficult for those of us paying attention to forget the determined statement from McConnell about making Obama a “one term president.” As we watched the downfall of the country with the ball in their court, the Republicans systematically skewered politics and created a new animosity from their own constituents we’d never before seen. Now they are actually realizing their mistakes and on the surface, appear to be playing fair. We will still get the garbage from some commenter’s here, but it does feel somewhat kinder and quiet doesn’t it? If the GOP does not wise up, they will be on the wrong end of another bloodbath in 2014. They don’t need to lie down and get steamrolled, and the Democrats don’t need to attempt to overrun them either. I truly believe they will work out their issues, come to some worthwhile agreement and we will all be better off for it.

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  • Mike kirchubelNovember 27, 2012 - 3:01 pm

    CD, thats the point of these articles. A better Republican party would translate into a better America.

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  • CD BrooksNovember 27, 2012 - 3:24 pm

    Mike, I agree completely. I’m just waiting to see if THEY have figured it out yet? If not, hoping they will sooner than later!

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 27, 2012 - 8:46 pm

    CD: Still waiting for any hint of a rejoinder to my post of 11/26 at 8:31 am. Anyone? Maybe the "they" you refer to are not as stupid as you think "they" are. Maybe "they" just happened to be in the minority when it came to votes for the Campaigner-in-Chief. So. You, RLW and Kirchubel are proudly throwing in with the various constituencies that elected Obama and all he stands for? I hope you are as proud of that two years from now as you are today.

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  • rlw895November 28, 2012 - 5:58 am

    Tom: Sounds to me like many of us supported Obama and the Democrats for similar reasons that you supported Romney and the Republicans: We feared the alternative. Neither of us, I suspect, fully support party platforms or the more extreme members of our presidential constituency. Both are broad groups. That's why we moderates want a reasonable and effective Republican Party. And it’s also why we aren't so concerned about Obama; he is hardly left-wing. If we are disappointed, it will probably because Obama is too far right. But Romney would have been far worse--a true plutocrat and plutocracy is the biggest threat facing the country at present. CD: If things are softer, how do you explain all the attention Benghazi and the four deaths are getting? I'm going to owe Tom a cup of coffee!

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  • CD BrooksNovember 28, 2012 - 7:39 am

    rlw895, I was referring to the comments being kinder here. The GOP was looking for anything to hang Obama for and they will continue because they have nothing left. They are devastated by their loss and cannot get past it. That is directly related to the fact they are way out of touch with Americans and lost in time somewhere. Rather than looking to become better, they are practicing the same old stuff. They’ll figure it out though, they have everything to lose.

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 28, 2012 - 10:35 am

    As long as Obama keeps signaling he is going to nominate Susan Rice, the Benghazi debacle will not go away. Obama understands this, but he is having too much fun tweaking the Republicans with the dilemma of having to attack a Black female. It seems clear to me that she was chosen for this mission for that very reason. Obama and Jarrett knew their cover story would not pass the laugh test, so they tapped Ms. Rice as chief spokesperson. Like a good and loyal soldier, she went along with it, even though it made her look like a fool. Promises of rewards down the road? You betcha.

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  • Mike KirchubelNovember 28, 2012 - 11:49 am

    So Tom, are you saying this Rice thingy is just like what Bush II did to his Secretary of State, Colin Powell and the W.M.D., only a couple hundred thousand times smaller in scope? If so, what are you basing that on? A Fox opinion? Your own opinion?

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 28, 2012 - 2:02 pm

    Mike: I guess it is my opinion/analysis after absorbing countless reports from print and TV media over the last few weeks (Fox News included, but not exclusive). One can't help but try and arrive at some sort of conclusion that makes sense, if we are reasonably cognizant of matters like this and devote precious minutes of our lives to them. I can't know for sure, but the difference between this "thingy" and the Bush "thingy" is that Bush actually believed in the WMD scenario, while Obama's reasoning tended to be skewed along the lines of protecting his "Al Queda is on the run" narrative--at least until the election was over. Remember, many anti-Bush folks went along with him at the time, because they, too, believed in the WMD scenario. I know that opinions don't count for much here--but there it is.

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  • rlw895November 28, 2012 - 1:31 pm

    Tom: I'll start off by noting CD's statement that the comments here are "kinder" must be referring to you! ;-) I agree. Your posts are much more thoughtful that what we were getting to expect from certain others. So let's recognize that right off. I do owe you that coffee. I thought the Benghazi stuff was just pre-election bluster and the Republicans would lose interest quickly afterwards. I don't exactly understand why they continue to carry on, but they are, and that was your prediction. So I won't poo-poo your speculation and prediction about Susan Rice. I don’t want to buy another cup! I agree, though, with Mike and his Colin Powell analogy. I think it's the same thing happening. My prediction is Rice will not be nominated, and she will land another good position. Then the question is, who at State? My admittedly wild prediction there is Clinton...Bill.

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 28, 2012 - 2:29 pm

    RLW: I guess it boils down to the fact that people just do not like to be talked to like they are children. To me, that blatant disrespect explains the continued anger on the part of those pursuing this matter. Add to that the obvious "Keystone Cop" level of our top government security agencies (still changing their stories about who edited the talking points as recently as yesterday) and you can see why McCain and others are vowing to "get to the bottom of this" come hail or high water. You are probably correct about the Rice nomination. The congressional circus that would entail might be too much to bear, even for Obama. Plus, it keeps the door open for possibly embarrasing further details emerging about Benghazi. I like Clinton over Kerry for State. Clinton may be a rascal, but Kerry? Well........

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 28, 2012 - 2:34 pm

    RLW: Coffee sounds good. Name time and venue.

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  • rlw895November 28, 2012 - 9:11 pm

    Tom: We've already agreed on the venue. Let's make other arrangements off-line;-).

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  • JonesyNovember 28, 2012 - 9:19 pm

    Tom, I agree on Kerry...It would eliminate a senior Democratic member of the Senate & free up a seat that could possibly go to a Republican...

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  • rlw895November 28, 2012 - 9:22 pm

    Tom: Regarding Kerry, the Republicans would confirm him in an instant to open up his Senate seat, which Scott Browm might very well win. So Rice and Kerry are both problematical. I figure the job is Clinton's if he's interested, or even willing, and Hillary is OK with it. Obama owes both Clinton's big time, but Bill especially.

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  • CD BrooksNovember 28, 2012 - 7:30 am

    Good morning Mr. Chalk! My reference was to those GOP members in Congress I didn't say any body was stupid. I addressed the issue of “thousands of doctors” leaving the profession as not likely. The idea that a huge number of jobs might be lost is simply hyperbole and more scare tactics from a minority group of Republicans. I am positive as are the majority of Americans, that we are way better off than we would have been should Romney have won the election. I do believe we are going to be just fine and I’ll gladly get back to you in two years! :)

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 28, 2012 - 3:36 pm

    Ok, CD--We will re-assess in two years. If I am right, I win. If you are right, I still win! What a country!

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  • Today Monday on....November 26, 2012 - 7:31 pm

    wwwinfowarscom.....On the live Monday, November 26 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex will take calls on the Mayan end-of-the-world 2012 rumor and also review the latest developments in the decelerating Israel-Gaza conflict. He will deconstruct former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski's acclamation that a “resistance” movement is impeding the march towards a New World Order and Rand Paul's calls for amnesty, and will also offer a diagnosis of the prevailing brutish police thug-culture and gang-like mentality increasingly acclimating the public into submissive fear. Alex will also cover other major headlines.

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  • Goldman Sachs Takeover of EuropeNovember 26, 2012 - 7:48 pm

    The “surprise” announcement that Canadian Mark Carney is to be appointed Governor of the Bank of England means that the 2012 Bilderberg attendee completes Goldman Sachs’ virtual domination over all the major economies of Europe....... Carney is a former 13-year veteran of Goldman Sachs and was involved in the 1998 Russian financial crisis which was exacerbated by Goldman advising Russia while simultaneously betting against the country’s ability to pay its debt...... Carney’s appointment arrives just six months after he attended the 2012 Bilderberg conference in Chantilly, Virginia, an annual confab of over a hundred of the most powerful people on the planet who have routinely flexed their kingmaker status.......Carney’s status as a foreign national is cited as one of the reasons his selection came as a shock, but being Canadian he is after all a “subject” of the Queen of England, who confirmed his appointment after he was recommended to her by Prime Minister David Cameron...... The presence of Carney at this year’s Bilderberg confab undoubtedly helped him curry favor amongst the global elite and helped him to secure the position as Governor of the BoE, just as it has aided other luminaries in exalting them to higher office, such as Herman Van Rompuy, who was picked as President of the European Union just days after he attended a Bilderberg Group dinner meeting.

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  • ContinuedNovember 26, 2012 - 7:53 pm

    Carney’s ascension to BoE head also represents the final piece of the jigsaw puzzle in Goldman Sachs’ quest to control virtually every major economy across the European continent....... Last year, former EU Commissioner Mario Monti was picked to replace Silvio Berlusconi, the democratically elected Prime Minister of Italy. Monti is an international advisor for Goldman Sachs, the European Chairman of David Rockefeller’s Trilateral Commission and also a leading member of the Bilderberg Group....... “This is the band of criminals who brought us this financial disaster. It is like asking arsonists to put out the fire,”commented Alessandro Sallusti, editor of Il Giornale...... Similarly, when Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou dared to suggest the people of Greece be allowed to have their say in a referendum, within days he was dispatched and replaced with Lucas Papademos, former vice-President of the ECB, visiting Harvard Professor and ex-senior economist at the Boston Federal Reserve............. Papademos ran Greece’s central bank while it oversaw derivatives deals with Goldman Sachs that enabled Greece to hide the true size of its massive debt, leading to Europe’s debt crisis............. Papademos and Monti were installed as unelected leaders for the precise reason that they “aren’t directly accountable to the public,” noted Time Magazine’s Stephen Faris, once again illustrating the fundamentally dictatorial and undemocratic foundation of the entire European Union........... Shortly afterwards, Mario Draghi – former Vice Chairman of Goldman Sachs International – was installed as President of the European Central Bank.

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  • ContinuedNovember 26, 2012 - 7:57 pm

    The U.S. Treasury Secretary at the beginning of the 2008 financial collapse was Hank Paulson, former CEO of Goldman Sachs. When Paulson was replaced with Tim Geither, Goldman Sachs lobbyist Mark Patterson was hired as his chief advisor. Current Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein has visited the White House 10 times. Goldman Sachs spent the most money helping Barack Obama get elected in 2008. Zero Hedge, who also predicted that Carney would defy the odds to secure the position at the Bank of England,notes today that, “All one needs to realize and remember how the events in the world play out is to remember one simple thing: GOLDMAN SACHS RUNS IT. Everything else is secondary.” As the graphic below illustrates, the economies of France, Ireland, Germany and Belgium are also all now controlled by individuals who harbor a direct relationship with Goldman Sachs. The international banking giant, notorious for its corruption and insider trading, now has massive influence over virtually every major western economy on the planet.

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  • Goldman/Government SachsNovember 26, 2012 - 8:18 pm

    Let me start with the nexus of power and money in this country. That nexus resides exactly where Wall Street and Washington intersect. Each serves the other and the middle-class be damned..... You see, the "revolving door" metaphor that's so often used to describe the relationship between Wall Street and Washington isn't exactly accurate....... The reality is that there is no revolving door. There are no doors at all. It is more like one giant corridor where all the water cooler talk is about paying for campaigns, paying lobbyists, and paying bonuses....... There's a reason why Goldman Sachs is derisively referred to as "Government Sachs." The flow of executives and operatives between Goldman and Washington, and even other world governments and central banks for that matter, is legendary...... I can't point out all the connections - there are simply too many. But I will point out a few that you may not be aware of.....How about Robert Rubin - the former Goldman co-CEO who became Treasury Secretary in the Clinton administration? From that post, Rubin squashed all regulations pertaining to derivatives, and ended Depression-era laws like the Glass-Steagall Act (which separated commercial banks from investment banks) so giant Citicorp could be formed by the merger of Travelers and Citibank. Rubin then went to Citigroup Inc. (NYSE: C), where he made some $119 million while leveraging the bank up with derivatives before it had to be bailed out....... Bailed out by whom? Bailed out by then Treasury Secretary Henry M. "Hank" Paulson, himself a former Goldman CEO........ And bailed out how? With the help of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, whose chairman was Steve Friedman, a former Goldman partner, still on Goldman's board...... That's the same Steve Friedman who bought $3 million worth of Goldman shares based on allegedly inside information he garnered at the Fed and from Goldman's board meetings, profited handsomely, and had to resign from the Fed board -- but not give any of his profits back........... And finally, Goldman itself had to be bailed out when it ran to the Fed on a Sunday in September 2008 to beg to be turned from an investment bank to a bank holding company so it could get Fed cash.......The truth is that Goldman Sachs and the rest of the big banks on Wall Street - in the inimitable words of author Michael Lewis from his seminal book Liar's Poker - invariably "blow up" customers to make money for themselves. Not only do they run roughshod over their customers (trading partners) and clients (banking relationships), the big banks manipulate markets, industries, economies and countries to fatten their already gigantic bonus pools and personal fortunes.

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  • Reference for aboveNovember 26, 2012 - 8:30 pm

    *******************http://moneymorning.com/2011/11/21/the-goldman-rule-dont-let-this-puppet-master-pull-your-strings/

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  • An Irish example of how it worksNovember 26, 2012 - 8:53 pm

    Other bond holders call themselves ‘asset management’ firms. The fifth largest asset management firm in the world is one of the bond holders. Others are insurance companies. The 6th and 9th largest in the world, to be specific. Others are the largest banks, Deutsche, Soc Gen, Barclay’s, PNB Paribas, UniCredit (who don’t appear on the list but own Pioneer Investments) and Wells Fargo (also not on the list but who own European Credit Management). Then there is Goldman. No show without the squid. Kleinwort Benson Investors is a bond holder. But Kleinwort is owned by a Belgian holding company, RHJ which is part owned by Mr Timothy Collins. Mr Collins also sits on the board of Citigroup. So he too is one of the bond holders the Irish people are ‘helping’. Finally, a very large number of the banks who are Anglo Irish’s bond holders, are members of something called the Euro Banking Association. All the large European banks, most of the large US ones, Swiss, Japanese, Nordic and some Chinese, are members. The chairperson is Mr Hansjorg Nymphius of Deutsche Bank. Other board members are from JP Morgan Chase, RBS, Bank of Ireland, West LB(bankrupt), BNP Paribas, ABN Ambro, Dexia and Banco Santander. Its a list which could double as the list of Anglo Irish’s bond holders. The EBA was set up in Paris in 1985, since when it has been and is, central to promoting European Union financial integration and the area’s banking interests. The EBA has close ties to the ECB. I will leave you to digest this disgusting bolus of self serving wealth protection. The only thing left to say is this. The bond holders of Anglo Irish are a very good guide to the identity of the bond holders of ALL OUR BANKS. The bond holders being protected, in every nation, on the advice of the banks and financial class, are THE BANKS AND THE WEALTHIEST OF THE FINANCIAL CLASS. THEY are shcrewing YOU!

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  • Ref for below (As above so below)November 26, 2012 - 9:08 pm

    *******************http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2010/10/who-are-the-bond-holders-we-are-bailing-out/

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  • Check this outDecember 01, 2012 - 11:01 am

    wwwinfowarscom.....On the Friday, November 30 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex exposes the NDAA's reworking by congressional legislators to create a more “Constitution friendly” version, the TSA's boycott of the Transport Committee's hearing claiming it is outside of the jurisdiction of Congress, the FAA's refusal to address privacy rights in regard to U.S. airspace drone use and more. On today's show, Alex welcomes 2008 Green Party presidential candidate and renowned political activist Rep. Cynthia Mckinney to discuss implications of the enduring Gaza-Israel conflict and the direction she sees the U.S. headed under Obama's second term. Alex also speaks with historian, economist and political analyst Tom Woods and Executive Director of the Foundation for a Free Society Jason Rink about the urgency of protecting states' rights and keeping secession a viable option, as discussed in the documentary Nullification: The Rightful Remedy.

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  • The BilderbergDecember 01, 2012 - 11:05 am

    Jesse Ventura and the team investigate the Bildergberg Group - a group that meets annually in secret heavily-guarded meetings in Europe, America, and Canada. Jesse learns that the Bilderberg Group comprises some of the most powerful people in the world, including heads of states and business leaders who want to control the world through a centralized government. Jesse also uncovers the Bilderberg's plan to reduce the world's population by up to 90% through the use of vaccines and food distribution control, in order to make control of the world easier.

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  • The BilderbergDecember 01, 2012 - 11:07 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-r4DGx04gI

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  • Check this out...December 01, 2012 - 10:07 pm

    Really check this out.... it is available thru the Solano County Library System. The Movie "The International". The International is a 2009 thriller film directed by Tom Tykwer. The film follows an Interpol agent (Clive Owen) and an American attorney (Naomi Watts) who investigate corruption within the IBBC, a fictional merchant bank based in Luxembourg. It serves organized crime and corrupt governments as a banker and as an arms broker. The bank's ruthless managers assassinate potential threats, including their own employees........ Modelled after the Bank of Credit and Commerce International banking scandal, the film's script, written by Eric Singer, was inspired by banking scandals in the 1980s and concerns about how global finance affects politics across the world. Production began in Berlin in September 2008, including the construction of a life size replica of the Guggenheim museum in New York for the film's climactic shoot-out scene. The film opened the 2010 Berlin International Film Festival on 8 January 2010. Reviews were mixed: some praised the sleek appearance and prescient themes, The Guardian called it a thriller with "brainpower as well as firepower". Hmmmmm fictionalized but...the intersection of Banking and the Arms Trade. Money is the root of all evil and Thou shalt not kill NOT, the Devils handiwork and the peasant suffers.

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  • mike kirchubelDecember 02, 2012 - 11:19 am

    “It’s about control... Their objective isn’t to control the conflict, it’s to control the debt that the conflict produces. You see, the real value of a conflict, the true value, is in the debt that it creates. You control the debt, you control everything... You find this upsetting - Yes? But this is the very essence of the banking industry, to make us all, whether we be nations or individuals, slaves to debt.” – Umberto Calvini, The International, written by Eric Warren Singer, 2008. Fictional Italian Presidential candidate Umberto Calvini was assassinated mere moments after speaking this truth – Maybe for knowing this truth." From p. 347 V.A.o.E.

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  • SavetheRepublicDecember 02, 2012 - 12:20 am

    Al Qaeda: US-NATO Foot-soldiers.......... Ironically, while Washington accuses Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran of complicity in the 9/11 attacks, the historical record and evidence indelibly point to the “state sponsorship” of Al Qaeda by the CIA, MI6 and their intelligence counterparts in Pakistan, Qatar and Saudi Arabia............ Realities are turned upside down. Al Qaeda death squads have been recruited to wage America’s humanitarian wars throughout the Middle East an d North Africa............. In Syria Al Qaeda units were recruited by NATO and the Turkish High command:............... “Also discussed in Brussels and Ankara, our sources report, is a campaign to enlist thousands of Muslim volunteers in Middle East countries and the Muslim world to fight alongside the Syrian rebels.”............ In Libya, jihadists from Afghanistan trained by the CIA were dispatched to fight with the “pro-democracy” rebels under the helm of “former” Libya Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) Commander Abdel Hakim Belhadj:......... Western policy makers admit that NATO’s operations in Libya have played the primary role in emboldening Al Qaeda’s AQIM faction (Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb). The Fortune 500-funded Brookings Institution’s Bruce Riedel in his article, “The New Al Qaeda Menace,” admits that AQIM is now heavily armed thanks to NATO’s intervention in Libya, and that AQIM’s base in Mali, North Africa, serves as a staging ground for terrorist activities across the region.

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  • Reference for aboveDecember 02, 2012 - 12:25 am

    ***************http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-crimes-of-war-committed-in-the-name-of-911/5311561

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  • Comments on Social SecurityDecember 02, 2012 - 3:07 pm

    SOCIAL SECURITY NOW CALLED 'FEDERAL BENEFIT PAYMENT'/ENTITLEMENT! The government is now referring to our Social Security checks as a “Federal Benefit Payment.” This isn't a benefit – its earned income! Not only did we all contribute to Social Security but our employers did too. It totaled 15% of our income before taxes. If you averaged $30K per year over your working life, that's close to $180,000 invested in Social Security. If you calculate the future value of your monthly investment in social security ($375/month, including both your and your employer’s contributions) at a meager 1% interest rate compounded monthly, after 40 years of working you'd have more than $1.3+ million dollars saved! This is your personal investment. Upon retirement, if you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $39,318 per year, or $3,277 per month. That’s almost three times more than today’s average Social Security benefit of $1,230 per month, according to the Social Security Administration (Google it - it’s a fact). And your retirement fund would last more than 33 years (until you're 98 if you retire at age 65)! I can only imagine how much better most average-income people could live in retirement if our government had just invested our money in low-risk interest-earning accounts. Instead, the folks in Washington pulled off a bigger Ponzi scheme than Bernie Madoff ever did. They took our money and used it elsewhere. They “forgot” that it was OUR money they were taking. They didn’t have a referendum to ask us if we wanted to lend the money to them. And they didn’t pay interest on the debt they assumed. And recently, they’ve told us that the money won’t support us for very much longer. But is it our fault they misused our investments? And now, to add insult to injury, they’re calling it a “benefit,” as if we never worked to earn every penny of it. Just because they “borrowed” the money, doesn't mean that our investments were a charity! Let’s take a stand. We have earned our right to Social Security and Medicare. Demand that our legislators bring some sense into our government – Find a way to keep Social Security and Medicare going, for the sake of that 92% of our population who need it. Then call it what it is: Our Earned Retirement Income. POSTERS COMMENT --- Now if you took Social Security out of the Hands/Pockets of the Federal Government/Federal Reserve (The Fed is basically our Federal Government now)and put it in the hands of each state via a State Bank model per the North Dakota model, then everyone could have there own account individually dedicated, but pooled and loaned out at say 3 to 5% for house loans ect within the State. We need to have a State by State Banking model. It takes away the power of the Federal Government to control all of us. With a state by state model, then everyone would at least have the option of moving to a different state. Speaking of which (moving to a different state) get this book......Strategic Relocation--North American Guide to Safe Places, 3rd Edition by Joel M. Skousen, Andrew Skousen, Audrey Butler and Elizabeth Lindsey

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  • Today Sunday on InfowarsDecember 02, 2012 - 10:11 pm

    On the Sunday, December 2 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex breaks down the ongoing effort by the international banksters to take down the United States with their relentless economic warfare and long-term effort to consolidate power and foist a centralized globalist government on the nation and the world as a whole. He talks about the so-called “fiscal cliff” currently under negotiation behind closed doors by the corporatist one party system and what it means to the future of a withering middle class and America as a whole as an engineered astronomical debt piles up and the value of the dollar slides toward the abyss. Infowars can you have Bill Still author of the book....No More National Debt on your show again. Thanks

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