Letters to editor

Things that baffle me

By From page A13 | February 05, 2014

I’m sure that there are many people in the readership of this newspaper who can answer some of my questions.

Yes, I admit I don’t believe that I know everything. For instance, is gravity consistent or does it account for the shape of the planet? I know that Earth revolves at more than 1,000 mph. Given this, the centrifugal force at the equator must be excessive, so why do we weigh the same at the poles? It would seem to me, that at one spot or another, there should be a huge difference in our weight.

Another question would be, how do the employment numbers work? For instance, one week a person can be counted as unemployed, but when he stops looking for work he is no longer counted, so what has changed? He is still unemployed, so who determines he is no longer to be counted? These so-called “facts” should be challenged by the unemployed and the underemployed.

When the talking heads on broadcast news stand up and tell us how our nation’s condition is improving, because the unemployment numbers continue to drop, shouldn’t they have to admit that a large number of people have quit searching for employment? It seems to me that even though these people are no longer searching for work, they are still unemployed.

Please tell me why I should believe anything our government tells us?

Rod Keck


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  • Mike KirchubelFebruary 04, 2014 - 8:42 am

    Every day, a large number of Americans retire and they do not have to send any request to the federal government in order to do so. Some people actually get sick, injured, or die. Some people only want to work part time and not full time. Some people only want to go to school and not work. These people also do not submit a request to work part time to the federal government. Therefore, the widespread concept of a "we know everything you're doing" government is wrong; there are many things they don't know and number of retirees is one of those things. Therefore, they must estimate that number and they tell you it's an estimate and revise that number several times over time as more data is input. My advice to you is to only believe what they tell you to believe on Fox and to ignore actual facts and data.

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  • Mr. SmithFebruary 04, 2014 - 10:12 am

    Thank goodness there is a Fox News to counter the baloney buffet being served by the mainstream media and the administration.

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  • rlw895February 04, 2014 - 10:30 am

    That's what FOX wants you to believe, and once you believe that, they have you for life.

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  • Mr. SmithFebruary 04, 2014 - 11:06 am

    The post by RLW regarding Fox is a perfect example of the common wisdom that goes something like this: "The conservative believes the liberal is mistaken. The liberal believes the conservative is evil."

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  • Puddin TaneFebruary 04, 2014 - 1:06 pm

    Really, Mr Smith? I can think of plenty of examples of conservatives believing that liberals are evil (you can find most of them on Fox Nation), but the most obvious one is the mentality of viewing liberals as un-American enemies. Case in point is Allen West, who famously declared that 80 of the dems in congress were card carrying members of the communist party. That was from April 2012, in case you want to look it up before denying it. Now, does Mr. West just think his opponents are "mistaken"?

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  • Mike KirchubelFebruary 04, 2014 - 1:49 pm

    I don't believe that all conservatives are evil, some are only grossly mistaken. But the people who really rile me up are those who lack a true, basic interest or understanding in the underlying subject matter and thus go straight to, and then endlessly parrot, the simplistic, Foxian, sound-bite explanations that seem to ring true by making it OK to hate various races, socio-economic levels, religions, and countries of origin. Class warfare, racism, and various forms of xenophobia have been the main political tools used to exploit people for generations, around the world, and even though we now have the means to communicate world-wide instantly, these prejudices continue to flourish with limited-information, limited-interest people looking for ways to justify their basest feelings of hate and selfishness. Comments?

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  • CD BrooksFebruary 04, 2014 - 2:02 pm

    Hey Mike, there’s no mistaking anything here. Republican Conservatives say they believe in the Constitution and we are not living by the language of that document. They say the 2nd amendment is rock solid and don't try to take their guns. They are correct, the law protects that amendment. Any and all rules by their measure end there, period. God, guns and country so long as it’s a country governed only by their interpretation. That might well be considered evil on many levels.

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  • Mr. SmithFebruary 04, 2014 - 3:55 pm

    Mike: This post is beneath contempt. You imply that Fox somehow engages in racism, class warfare an xenophobia, hatred of various religions and social classes, blah, blah blah. And folks who subscribe to those "Foxian" notions do so to justify their basest feelings of hatred and selfishness. Full of ..it? Why, yes. I believe you are.

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  • Mr. SmithFebruary 04, 2014 - 4:05 pm

    Oh, and I forgot to mention--Thank goodness for Fox News. By the way, Obama (privately) thanks goodness for Fox, too. By blaming his troubles on Fox, he can avoid answering for his administration's shortcomings.

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  • CD BrooksFebruary 04, 2014 - 4:57 pm

    Mr. Smith the evidence is overwhelming and hasn't changed in years. It's unbelievable you all fail to recognize the obvious truth. It's a very sad statement so many of you support this activity and think it's okay. It is not.

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  • rlw895February 04, 2014 - 8:39 pm

    Mr.S: I don't see how blaming FOX gets Obama out of explaining himself. Where do you get this stuff?

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  • CD BrooksFebruary 05, 2014 - 6:47 am

    Prig buster, yet another alias Mr. C? You should not throw stones Sir. You belong to the party currently practicing all the hateful tendencies you accuse Mike of. You are wrong about Mike, you are wrong about your own handlers. Myopia is a terrible disease and there is no cure for you.

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  • CD BrooksFebruary 05, 2014 - 8:28 am

    The race to extinction began with Rush Limbaugh. Soon the Republicans jumped on his bandwagon. Then as he got bolder and stretched his bizarre thought process, the Conservatives jumped aboard too. Now the Premier Network and FOX are playing in the same sandbox. Soon Beck and Hannity come along bringing an assortment of loons from the religious community and voila! Now we have a bunch of self-serving idi*ts working alongside god-serving mor*ns to create the biggest political hoax of the century. The mayhem continues as their self-righteous followers stand to ignore the flagrant abuses against humanity. If you’re a Republican and ponder your political future, you should actually leave your moms basement, destroy all the porn and gun magazines then go out and do the real work. Read and watch what those you so fondly admire are really doing. There are alternate choices to make your decisions and that’s important to break the mind-numbing indoctrination you’ve succumbed to. If you can wake up and be the slightest bit objective you will understand that we have been trying to save you all this time. That’s okay you needn’t be embarrassed any longer we get it. We’re ready to accept you anyway. So c’mon over the sun is shining and it’s always a beautiful day in America where the Democrats await you.

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  • Mike KirchubelFebruary 04, 2014 - 5:49 pm

    I don't believe my post is beneath contempt. It is about the same level as contempt. About the same level as the post i was responding to. Sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way.

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  • rlw895February 04, 2014 - 8:37 pm

    Mike: Good explanation. Why does FOX do it? For money. If you cater to what people want to hear, you will get a big audience, and that's what it's all about in commercial TV.

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  • rlw895February 04, 2014 - 8:34 pm

    Mr.S: You know that isn't true. Is that more from FOX?

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  • Mr. SmithFebruary 04, 2014 - 9:05 pm

    Guess you missed the O'reilly Superbowl interview, RLW. But you and MK are too far into the Fox-Derangement Syndrome for me to try and explain in detail why Fox appeals to such a massive audience. Once more: People like me don't agree with Fox. Fox agrees with us. Save your breath next time you want to shame us for not hating Fox News like you liberals do.

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  • Mike KirchubelFebruary 04, 2014 - 10:18 pm

    I saw the interview. It went exactly as scripted. O'reilly played to the Foxies by "daring" to mention Benghazi, the tax thingie, and keystone and Obama told him that all those things had been studied to death and actions had been taken where appropriate and thank you for beating these things to death on your Fox network. Big whoopdie do.

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  • rlw895February 04, 2014 - 10:39 pm

    Mr.S: FOX gets its audience by telling people what they want to hear. We're in agreement on that. I didn't miss the interview; I had no interest in it. And hate is too strong a word for how I feel about FOX. I look at it as more of a natural phenomenon in a free society that capitalizes on how hard it is to be virtuous.

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  • rlw895February 04, 2014 - 10:42 pm

    To say someone "hates" something is to dismiss the rationality of what they are saying. I try to avoid that myself.

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  • Mike KirchubelFebruary 05, 2014 - 1:22 am

    I agree with RLW. Big surprise. Fox tells its audience what they want to hear, that it is ok to hate this black guy. It's not racist because we can make up "real" reasons to hate him. After all, he's spending us into oblivion, he's taking away our guns and freedom, he's a foreign-born Muslim destroying our nation by letting in all these foreigners, and on and on. Lie after lie that the viewers suck up all the while explaining away the lack of coverage by other media as, "oh, they are lame stream and leftist, and we are the only network in the entire world that tells you the truth." Ha. Maybe, just maybe, they are the ones who are wrong and just telling you what you want to hear in order to sell their audience to their advertisers. Which is what they do to make money

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  • Mr. SmithFebruary 05, 2014 - 4:24 am

    Mike: Now your Fox Derangement Syndrome (FDS) has gotten the better of you. There's gotta be a cure for that someday!

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  • Mike KirchubelFebruary 05, 2014 - 8:38 am

    I will join you in praying for a cure for Faux News. Maybe the U.S. should have a law like Canada, making it illegal to lie on "news" programs, or would that be limiting their "freedom of speech?"

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  • Things that Waffle Me....February 05, 2014 - 8:43 am

    You should be Squashed......

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  • ?February 05, 2014 - 9:23 am

    I taunt, I mean I tautology you.....ta ta for now.....

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  • She always over-exaggerates ? .....( not me, I )February 05, 2014 - 9:56 am

    Tautology is a way to express something by repeating or saying it in a different way. This can be used for emphasis, to convey something important, or to add literary beauty to a text. However, many times its use in inadvertent and is just a needless repetition. In logic, it is a statement that consists of two facts, one which will be true in any instance.

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  • G-ManFebruary 05, 2014 - 12:19 pm

    Another thing that should baffle you Mr Keck..especially after reading Kirchubels Spinderella take on the whole employment..to use his word "thingie" is why there's always such a big debate about extending unemployment benefits...you don't get them if you're retired,you don't get them if you get sick or die,and you get them OMG it just dawned on me...when you're unemployed...Mike K tells you facetiously to ignore data and facts..well you can certainly look up labor participation rates,food stamp recipient numbers, and today the CBO's new data on the ACA is quite a splash of cold reality regarding obama's signature legislation....I watch all the news outlets but what I watch more closely is those who would tell me not to watch any certain one...Those people bear watching..if you can bear it.

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  • Danny BuntinFebruary 05, 2014 - 8:44 am

    You should be able to get your science questions answered by Billo: "Tides come in, tides go out - nobody knows why???"

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  • Mike KirchubelFebruary 05, 2014 - 9:27 am

    I'll give Keck credit for one thing, at least he knows he doesn't know. Most of these Fox yahooies don't realize they don't know. They think that just because some guy dressed up in a suit and tie says it on TV, that it must be true and then they endlessly parrot the lies to others and get upset when people scoff at them.

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  • http://www.infowars.com/supreme-court-justice-confirms-american-internment-camps-will-happen-again-it-is-the-reality/February 05, 2014 - 9:42 am

    Google...Supreme Court Justice Confirms American Internment Camps Will Happen Again: “It is the Reality” Mac Slavo SHTFplan.com February 5, 2014..............While President Obama and Congressional members have made an effort to convince their constituents that the provisions in the National Defense Authorization Act will never be used against citizens of the United States, the fact is that the laws clearly allow for the detention, arrest and detainment of Americans without charge or trial. ................. Image: Antonin Scalia (Wikimedia Commons). The President attempted to assuage these fears of potential abuse of the law by including a signing statement promising he would never use the law against Americans, but the statement itself is non-binding, leaving the possibility of misuse wide open.

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  • Dr Michael Coffman - Agenda 21 The Race for Global GovernanceFebruary 05, 2014 - 9:46 am


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  • Why not try some TRUTH ?February 05, 2014 - 9:51 am

    On this Wednesday, February 5 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex covers efforts by Obama's police state to fend off growing criticism of its airport Gestapo, the TSA, and popular and growing outrage over the end of privacy and the dilution of much of the Bill of Rights. Alex also gets into the reasons the economy is crumbling and why more and more Americans are mired in crushing poverty. On today's worldwide broadcast, Alex talks with Adam Loewy, a personal injury attorney who has been litigating police brutality cases for over 10 years. Mr. Loewy talks about the tazing of Noe Nino De Rivera, lies the government concocted related to the case, and the hurdles standing in the way of Americans suing the government when it violates their rights. Mr. Loewy will be in-studio with Alex.wwwinfowarscom....wwwprisonplanet(dot)tv

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  • https://www.llis.dhs.gov/NEDFebruary 05, 2014 - 11:51 am

    Very Funny Evil people at FEMA....The National Exercise Division (NED)........A key NEP exercise that will be conducted in 2014 is the Capstone Exercise.....Operation Capstone = Capping the Illuminati pyramid [ Google... The Basic Illuminati Structure - Illuminati News ]....look at the back of your dollar bills.....Very funny evil people.....You know FEMA was drilling the day before 9/11 in New York City....very funny that...

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  • G-ManFebruary 05, 2014 - 12:05 pm

    Good news is FOX isn't going anywhere and is enjoying ratings thru the roof...It's amusing to watch all the Liberals here have a thrombo over FOX...They can't stand to have the truth pointed out to them..something as simple as obama saying during his first campaign over and over again.."We're going to fundamentally transform America"....then on the O-Reilly interview obama sits there with his usual smirk and says "I never said I wanted to fundamentally transform America"....The man who promised Hope and Change,the supposed champion of the Every Man the most transparent president..his legacy will be anything but..after five years of Mr Hope the economic condition of the black race has only gotten worse and the country's race relations have not gotten any better...the most "transparent" president.?..well if you mean we can see right thru him..well then..'Right I agree.

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  • Mr. SmithFebruary 05, 2014 - 4:11 pm

    Typical liberal condescension and air of superiority by Mike again. Textbook example of a deluded, self-important knuckle head.

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  • CD BrooksFebruary 05, 2014 - 4:29 pm

    Mr. Smith, you ever get out to Roseville? They have a great little hotdog shop there called Knuckleheads. If you're ever out that way, give it a try! Unless of course you don't like hotdogs, that would be silly...

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  • CD BrooksFebruary 05, 2014 - 4:33 pm

    Mr. Smith, I just learned they're closed, bummer. Now I have find another spot. Anyway, I just wanted to use your shot at Mike with something positive! :)

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  • Mike KirchubelFebruary 05, 2014 - 5:13 pm

    Named after the Harleys?

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  • Born To Be BadFebruary 05, 2014 - 6:27 pm


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  • Knuckleheads like Mike need to be kick started.....February 05, 2014 - 6:37 pm


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  • NFSD......Jane Eyre (1943)February 05, 2014 - 6:51 pm


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  • Mr. SmithFebruary 05, 2014 - 5:13 pm

    Thanks, CD. A positive attitude is always appreciated around here.

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