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Prejudice rises in America

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From page A8 | March 01, 2014 |

So the conservative freak show has succeeded in rearing its ugly head and spread the disease of hate within the hallowed walls of political correctness.

Republican lawmakers and a network of conservative religious groups have been pushing “religious freedom bills” that essentially legalize discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Arizona and Kansas passed legislation. Idaho, Oregon, South Dakota and Tennessee followed. Arizona, Hawaii, Ohio, Oklahoma and Mississippi are introducing broader bills with a provision that would also allow people to deny services or employment to LGBT Americans, although Arizona’s governor vetoed her state’s legislation.

This is religion spreading the ugliness that it has carried along with it for centuries.

We have laws to counter this behavior and now they’re looking to circumvent the Constitution and Bill of Rights. This will not stop with gay citizens and all Americans know that. This is an opportunity for every racist, homophobic, woman-hating person in this country to legally discriminate against whomever they please, all in the name of their God.

I have warned against this for years, but just like then it is ignored or accepted – not sure which is worse – by conservative Republicans across the board. Last I checked, this is America, land of the free and home of the brave. This is supposed to be a “safe place” for those “different” folks who cannot find such comfort anywhere else in the world.

But this isn’t as simple as immigration or “entitlements,” as some will suggest. This is devastating news to a once-proud, once-free country that has always opened its arms to the masses, albeit reluctant at times, but in the end, accepted nevertheless.

What is wrong with these people? They worship an alleged “all-loving, all-forgiving God,” then turn around and trash the civil rights of humans they don’t like or disagree with. Their ignorance and hypocrisy run so deep there is no hope for them. They should be so thrilled with themselves.

Good grief.

Chris Brooks

Fairfield

Letter to the Editor

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  • archieMarch 01, 2014 - 6:39 am

    I am so tired of hearing about this. I am all about freedom and the right to do as you please,,,,, but these abominations and freak shows of nature have pushed their beliefs and deviant ways on all of us.

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  • The MisterMarch 01, 2014 - 7:09 am

    "Prejudice rises in America"? Really? We have elected and re-elected a Black man as President. We have more openly gay politicians than ever before. We have more gay-themed popular media (movies, TV programs) than ever before. We have more Hispanic everything. How in the HECK do you figure that prejudice is rising? To HECK with all of you... you've lost your "victim" status. I'm not prejudice... but you've convicted me of being prejudice. You really need to hear this warning... we are fed up being called names and you had better shut the HECK up right now and get the HECK out of our faces. You want to live with us... then you need to fit in with us. We will not pick on you and call you names, like you do to us. We will NOT support your differences. We will just leave you alone to have a happy life. Now do the same for us! And remember my warning... you are at the tipping point. I guarantee you that you do not want to wake the sleeping majority.

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 7:18 am

    Archie, The mister, wow. Clearly social etiquette and equality has some catching up to do.

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  • archieMarch 01, 2014 - 7:24 am

    well said Mister

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  • Puddin TaneMarch 04, 2014 - 12:02 pm

    The Mister, nice impotent threat. Those of us against the bigotry behind the recent Arizona law will keep doing what we're doing to ensure equal rights for all of America's citizens, your "threats" not withstanding.

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  • rlw895March 04, 2014 - 12:17 pm

    One of the predictions of Obama's election was that it would release bigotry because people would be able to hide behind the defense that we elected our first black president and therefore can't be considered bigoted. I didn't think that make much sense until now!

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  • Mr. SmithMarch 04, 2014 - 8:17 pm

    RLW: What? Seems like you see bigotry in the American people who express antipathy to Obama's policies, leadership and performance as POTUS. Take off the blinders. There might be another, higher reason.

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  • rlw895March 04, 2014 - 8:28 pm

    Mr.S: How do you explain TM's outburst?

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  • Mr. SmithMarch 04, 2014 - 8:45 pm

    Well, RLW--It is not for me to explain TM's post. I was aiming more at your reference to Obama's election. TM's angst seems to be directed at the way our current society seems to be be going in general.

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  • Salty DogMarch 01, 2014 - 7:20 am

    What about the tolerance from the gay and lesbians when it comes to my Christian values and views. Why do I have to accept their life style when they won't accept mine? Christians love the sinner but hate the sin. Jesus died on the cross and paid the price for our sins. Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 7:27 am

    Salty Dog, any further comments expressing my beliefs on that subject would be redundant.

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  • archieMarch 01, 2014 - 7:36 am

    CD,,, I respect your opinion and look forward to seeing your posts,,,, but you have to admit that this movement is a little concerning to the average American. They are relentlessly pushing their agenda and victimizing themselves to a point that is no longer tolerated by myself and the silent majority. But I better be careful,,,, im not religious or gay OMG!!!!

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 8:00 am

    Archie, I do agree these legislative attacks are a concern for the average citizen. Imagine walking into an establishment with your family and being asked to leave for any number of reasons. Refusing service is a given we're all aware of that. But basing the refusal on an alleged religious point of view? That really opens the door to some interesting moments don't you think? C'mon now.

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  • archieMarch 01, 2014 - 8:07 am

    CD I have to ask,,,,,, are you Chris Brooks? A bit coincidental but you never know.

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 8:16 am

    Archie, yes. Do I know you?

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  • archieMarch 01, 2014 - 8:21 am

    you probably know me all too well CD,,,,, im that voice in your head telling you that you are wrong,,,, that nobody cares what your views are,,,, that your statements are not as profound as you may think. Basically im the voice of the majority

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 8:26 am

    archie, uh okay. But you do not represent the majority. They will not go that far right.

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  • archieMarch 01, 2014 - 8:34 am

    by saying that im far right I assume you mean correct? enough of your bs,,,,,,,,, it stops here and now,,,,,,,, I will call you out on every liberal comment you make and with MAJORITY agreeing with me.

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 9:02 am

    archie, that is certainly your prerogative. I welcome the challenge bring all you got.

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  • Salty DogMarch 01, 2014 - 7:42 am

    CD With your closed mind we can all see that you do not acept any one that does not agree with you, what does that make you. I am a sinner just like you and every one else. I am not perfect, I am forgiven. Christ died on the cross for us all

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 8:07 am

    Let me be clear here folks. My biggest concern in case you missed it, is the level to which many folks will go to “use their religion” as a means to deny service to whomever they choose. This goes way past a cup of coffee my friends. It goes beyond black or white, gay or straight, mixed couples whatever, there is no denying that. Be real, you know how mean spirited some can be just look at the responses here. It is bad law, period. It is wrong on every level. Not sure how anybody could accept this?

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  • PornacMarch 01, 2014 - 7:31 am

    Gay legislators writing laws discriminating Christians. It's coming. Get your guns.

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  • Salty DogMarch 01, 2014 - 10:30 am

    CD what about the extent the gay and lesbin group goes to to force their agenda on christians like my self and be so closed minded the they discrimate agnist christans, and dont go and say they do not do that.

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  • boomMarch 01, 2014 - 10:41 am

    @Pornac-Rarely do I agree with your point of view, today I do. Laws are being written that are discriminatory to straight people. Domestic partnership comes to mind right off the top of my head. How come I am heterosexual and under the age of 62 so therefore I am not allowed to enter into a domestic partnership? For a group of people who claim to be discriminated against, antagonized and kept down by the powers that be, their since of duty to protect ALL people from discrimination has never been found. Gay people make up 4.5% of the population, why the heck are we trying to accommodate so little a piece of the population when larger subsets of our nation are still facing laws that have clearly been discriminating against them for centuries?

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  • Mr. JonesMarch 01, 2014 - 3:51 pm

    Boom, maybe you should look up the meaning of "Domestic partnership"...

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  • boomMarch 01, 2014 - 5:07 pm

    Why look up the meaning of domestic partnership? Heterosexual couples can become domestic partners just not until they are 62 or older. Is that not age discrimination and gender discrimination?

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  • Rick WoodMarch 01, 2014 - 9:10 pm

    Domestic partnerships are essentially moot now in California, since same-sex marriage became legal.

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  • boomMarch 01, 2014 - 10:15 pm

    @Rick-To some people they are moot but to me, its an answer to a one of the biggest problems I'm having in my life right now and I can't use it because I am not gay or over 62 years of age. You have to remember we live in a community property state and that having homosexual peccadilloes aren't the only reason to have this law on the books.

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  • rlw895March 03, 2014 - 9:43 pm

    boom: You don't have to be gay to enter a domestic partnership, but you do have to be the same sex unless you're over 62, then you can be either. "Same-sex" marriage is not "gay marriage," though one would expect most such unions are between LGBT people. There is no checkbox on the marriage certificate for "sexual orientation." So, if you are under 62 and opposite sex, you have to get married to get the benefits of marriage, just like it always has been.

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 4:34 pm

    Salty Dog, okay go ahead and tell all of us where and how those folks are forcing their agenda on you. Please explain to me how they are discriminating against you.

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  • Danny BuntinMarch 01, 2014 - 4:51 pm

    This is to much, these people would be happier in Saudi Arabia. They could then visit Iran while on holiday. It is unbelievable how these people hide behind religion, what are they truly afraid of? Up is down, right is left....

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  • Puddin TaneMarch 04, 2014 - 1:53 pm

    How have they forced anything on you? Last I checked they were looking for equal protection as spouses under the law, does it really bother you that two people want that? If you feel that this threatens your faith, then your faith isn't that strong.

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  • mescMarch 01, 2014 - 11:24 am

    This opinion was nothing more than an immature rant filled with name calling and accusations. It is very hateful. There are no facts, no dialog and nothing was solved. What a shameful waste of space.

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  • Salty DogMarch 01, 2014 - 12:06 pm

    mesc: so what side are you on this or do you have a side?

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 4:17 pm

    mesc, maybe you should read this again. Calling it an immature rant might work for someone else but I have been talking about this happening on this site for years. The hate is from the GOP and religious community, I'm simply pointing it out. The facts are in evidence, perhaps you just don't like them?

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  • Rich GiddensMarch 01, 2014 - 11:57 am

    Sounds like more diversity perversity whining at the university to me.

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  • The SugarJarMarch 01, 2014 - 12:15 pm

    Thank you for writing this letter, Mr. Brooks. It is a subject I care deeply about. For those offended, I'd suggest the " walk a mile" in the other guy's shoes here. I'm trying it out with those expressing their fear or anger or disgust that there are people out there also wanting to be seen, heard, and allowed to live like I do.

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  • Salty DogMarch 01, 2014 - 2:03 pm

    sugar jar I can also ask for those that do not allow Christians like my self to have our views. The gays and lesbians that want to force me to except their life style when they clearly not understand or have the tolerance for my views. Like I said in a previous comment Christans hate the sin not the sinner.

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  • rlw895March 01, 2014 - 5:25 pm

    No one is disallowing you to have views. They might be disallowing you to take an action. There's a big difference.

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  • The SugarJarMarch 01, 2014 - 2:28 pm

    Salty Dog, I have not met any people who don't alllow Christians their view point. It is when that view point is given legal stature and it keeps all from enjoying the same rights and privileges that there is a problem, in my view. It is when that viewpoint has to trump my grandson's right (or my neighbor's) to employment, marriage, etc., that there is a problem. It's when I can buy my cake at the local bakery, but my neighbor cannot because of a "viewpoint".

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  • Salty DogMarch 01, 2014 - 3:10 pm

    Sugar jar What about when you see a sign in a restaurant that says no service if you are not wearing a shirt or do not have shoes on. As a christian i want every one to know the saving grace of Jesus Christ and that he died for all of our sins not just mine but every one. Why do i have to comprise my beliefs when others do not have to comprise theirs?

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  • The SugarJarMarch 01, 2014 - 4:30 pm

    A person can put on shoes or a shirt. Not so much their gender or orientation. When people say you cannot be a Christian and bar you marrying except for someone of the same sex, or turned away at the market because of being Christian, male, white, or straight-- I'll be speaking up for you too. Some of my best friends are Christian. :)

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  • Salty DogMarch 01, 2014 - 5:11 pm

    sugar Jar. Yes you do have a choice to put on a shirt and shoes just like you can choose to be gay it is a choice you are not born that way. God did not create us that way. If it is so natural how come two women can not give berth to children with out a man and two men cannot give birth without a women.

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  • rlw895March 01, 2014 - 5:27 pm

    SD: If sexual orientation were not a choice, would you change your position?

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  • Salty DogMarch 02, 2014 - 7:47 am

    rlw sexual orientation is a choice God created adam and eve. He did not create 2 adams nor did he create 2 eve's

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  • rlw895March 04, 2014 - 12:19 pm

    SD: That doesn't answer the question. Try to put yourself in an alternative universe for a moment.

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 5:38 pm

    Salty Dog, we will never be on the same page but youth and immaturity will eventually give way to wisdom. Good luck young man, you have a lot of growing up to do.

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  • Salty DogMarch 02, 2014 - 7:55 am

    CD: I want to leave you with this If you are young and a conservative you have no heart, and if you are old and a liberal you have no brain.

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  • CD BrooksMarch 02, 2014 - 8:51 am

    Salty Dog, could you please tell me how you are being discriminated against by women, gay and black people?

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  • Salty DogMarch 02, 2014 - 8:59 am

    CD Why are you trying to put words in my mouth Did i ever say any thing about as you put it Blacks or women. No i did not. Your old liberal trick of telling people a lie enough times that people will begin to believe that lie will not work here.

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  • CD BrooksMarch 02, 2014 - 9:00 am

    Salty Dog, it is totally relevant kindly answer the question. But please leave the bible and your god out of it. I’d love to hear your personal trials.

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  • CD BrooksMarch 02, 2014 - 9:21 am

    Salty Dog, for the record deflection, obfuscation and repeating lies is a patented FOX/GOP trait, not mine. Your stuttering and failure to respond is indicative of that behavior. My letter addressed the terrible law and where it would ultimately lead. You responded to only a portion of that. It all goes hand in hand. Please answer the question.

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  • The SugarJarMarch 01, 2014 - 5:59 pm

    We disagree on the "choose to be gay." I don't think I can choose to be gay. Why would someone choose to be gay, if that truly were a choice? More suicides and attempts are by gay kids then straight. Kids who come out to their families are too often soon homeless. Being "different" is like being a bullying magnet. Whether I "want" others to be gay (and let's throw in trans) or not, some people are. I want them to be able to live. I want them to have the same rights, privileges, and opportunities that I have.

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  • Puddin TaneMarch 04, 2014 - 1:59 pm

    Salty Dog, your ignorance speaks volumes. Being gay is not a choice. I mean, do you remember the exact moment you decided to be hetero? No, of course you don't, because it's not a choice. Do you really think someone would "choose" to be part of a demographic that is hated and experiences a stigma against them (from people like you)?

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  • Puddin TaneMarch 04, 2014 - 2:01 pm

    Here is a question for all those saying they discriminate for Jesus: if Jesus was gay (he DID hang around 12 guys a lot), would you still accept His love?

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  • patrickMarch 01, 2014 - 2:54 pm

    has anyone noticed that the infighting in America started shortly after Obama took office-----. " divide and conquer". do this words sound familiar?

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  • Danny BuntinMarch 01, 2014 - 4:44 pm

    Exactly, and you are the gullible falling for the bait.

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  • rlw895March 01, 2014 - 5:02 pm

    It took on a new character. What we are seeing now are people howling at the moon. Change was coming sooner or later to America. Obama was a major symbol of that change. So yes, in that sense, divisions became apparent--between people who can accept change and look forward and people who look backward and resist.

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  • Danny BuntinMarch 01, 2014 - 5:44 pm

    @rlw: They act as if this was Obamas master plan. Do they forget that this politician was fighting to keep marriage between a man and a woman the law of the land. Thankfully he woke up one day(re-election), and pushed this nonsense to the side, after realizing that these people would vote for Fidel Castro over him regardless of what he did. It was only a matter of time before this came to a full stop, with the backing of the U.S. Constitution. So if my religious(snark) teachings say I get to sacrifice someone on groundhog day, does that trump someones right to life and liberty??? These narrow minded people know no end. Practice what you like, just keep it out of the public arena. Is that really to hard to comprehend?

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  • rlw895March 01, 2014 - 9:31 pm

    DB: Actually, it was apparent Obama would "evolve" to where he did as he craftily did away with DADT. This is a careful, deliberate, and analytical president. He's concerned more about building agreement for sustainability than speed. That's the community organizer in him. As for religion trumping secular law, I personally think it should never be allowed, public or private, as long as the secular law has a rational basis other than religious discrimination. The Supreme Court has struggled with what standard to use for generations, but I'm getting more confident they will end that and settle on a "rational basis" test.

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  • rlw895March 01, 2014 - 4:15 pm

    Wow, CD, you kicked the hornets nest today! Let me ask for some clarification from SD, archie, and anyone else who cares to answer: What do you mean by "accepting the gay lifestyle?" If we're talking about same-sex marriage, why not just say so?

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  • CD BrooksMarch 01, 2014 - 4:37 pm

    rlw895, the vile hatred and phobias from the Conservative bunch needs to be reckoned with. I am totally comfortable with my position. I've spelled it out, now who wants to deny it?

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  • rlw895March 01, 2014 - 5:04 pm

    Obviously TM does. He took it pretty personally.

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  • rlw895March 01, 2014 - 5:07 pm

    Here's another one: What do you mean by "force their agenda on?"

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