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From page A11 | January 23, 2014 |

Mike Kirchubel has given us another lesson in liberal spin and misdirection in his column challenging Thomas Sowell (Jan. 20).

First, Mr. Sowell is a respected economist who has been studying and writing prolifically for many years. Mr. Kirchubel is out of his depth here. Second, Mr. Sowell made the absolutely true contention that no economist ever espoused a “trickle-down” theory. Mr. Kirchubel says, in effect, so what? – it’s politicians who make laws.

This is classic misdirection.

Third, Mr. Sowell says, again correctly, that the liberal side coined the term “trickle down,” defined it and then said it was a right-side invention. Mr. Kirchubel “nearly fell down laughing” over this. It wasn’t the laughing that caused this. It was all the spinning he does.

John L. Martin

Fairfield

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  • Mike KirchubelJanuary 22, 2014 - 11:27 am

    Nice letter, John. While I think you are off track on who's spinning who, I thank you for reading the column. Although I never mentioned it in this article, Will Rogers is the accepted source for the term "Trickle down." He said, in 1932: "The money was all appropriated for the top in the hopes that it would trickle down to the needy. Mr. Hoover didn’t know that money trickled up. Give it to the people at the bottom and the people at the top will have it before night, anyhow. But it will at least have passed through the poor fellow’s hands." A great quote, so simple and so right. As I wrote in the article, the "trickle down" theory existed in the Depression of the 1890's, well before Herbert Hoover. It was used for the same purposes back then: To get working class people to vote for Republican policies and politicians. You can call "trickle down" a Democratic term if you want; Will Rogers was a Democrat by his own admission, but the origin of the term is meaningless compared to what it actually does. Call that "spin" if you like, I call that truth.

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  • PornacJanuary 23, 2014 - 7:09 am

    Mike educates Pornac so he better understands these things.

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  • G-ManJanuary 23, 2014 - 4:57 pm

    I can't believe you actually wrote that...when LBJ started the war on poverty poverty was @10%..now after trillions thrown at the problem it's 16.1%..and that's being kind...if anything's trickling down..it's your common sense....

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  • Mike KirchubelJanuary 24, 2014 - 12:49 pm

    Gary, I agree, the percentage of poor was higher before the War on Poverty, but the total number of poor people is actually higher now, as is our total population. But who wrote that? nobody on this thread.

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  • G-ManJanuary 24, 2014 - 4:35 pm

    My comment was to Pornac's syncophantic post....waiting for him to compose an Ode to Mike...But while I have you here M I direct you to renewamerica.org...It seems you may be in error..per RA.org the poverty rate declined in the 1950's from 30 to 18%..obviously before LBJ's phoney war...If black people knew what he said about them in regards to civil rights they would be back in the GOP where they started and really belonged all along...remember?..Lincoln that whole free the slaves civil war thing?..But I digress...When the War on Poverty got up to speed in the 70's the improvement in the poverty levels stalled..and well you know where we are now...I'm well aware of the population factor but we're talking % here and the fact that we've had all this time and spent all this money you'd think we'd have done better..that said what is poverty?...Today we have people with official poverty status driving decent cars,with big TV's on the wall and if there is any money left over from their drug habits taking vacations that my parents who worked hard all their lives couldn't dream of taking...We can run laps on this ad infinitum..bottom line progressives should just stop chest thumping and waxing righteous on this whole poverty trickle up equality thing...cause it ain't working..and if past history is any indication never will...

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  • Rich GiddensJanuary 23, 2014 - 8:09 am

    Komrade Kirchebel believes in the Communist Manifesto and not the American Revolution. It's that simple!

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  • Mike KirchubelJanuary 24, 2014 - 12:57 pm

    Ritchie Rich, I never read it, but perhaps you could enlighten us all by providing examples of how I am following it. It would be of great interest to many on this blog, including me.

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