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From page A7 | June 12, 2014 |

Now before all you gun-control advocates go off again on how guns should be controlled, because of what took place at the Santa Barbara college, don’t you think mental health should be called into action here?

Instead of worrying about how to control his gun, don’t you think the gunman’s acceptance of how people treated him may have been better handled by the shrink than by trying to control his weapon, since what he did was more a mental issue than a control-your-weapon issue?

That’s the trouble with gun-control advocates. At the same time they try to control your weapon, some of them either have bodyguards or pack a gun while trying to control other people’s rights – such as state Sen. Leland Yee was trying to do while allegedly making deals for gun sales by criminals to FBI agents.

Lloyd Willmschen

Fairfield

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  • boomJune 12, 2014 - 12:22 am

    Something has to give. The statistics say there is one mass shooting every 7.33 days in America. Indeed, the United States is the most violent of all the developed nations, experiencing 74 school shootings in the 18 months since the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary in December of 2012 — an average of almost one school shooting a week. According to data compiled by USA Today, a mass shooting in which 4 or more people are injured or die occurs every two weeks, with most of the violence going unreported in the press. Here is the key for me to ending school violence, when underage children bring their parents guns to school and kill people, the parents should be charged with 1st degree murder and assault with a deadly weapon for every single crime committed. That , in itself , would cut more than half of this out.

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  • BustJune 12, 2014 - 6:24 am

    The "74 school shootings" statement is bogus and has been completely discredited. That number includes such incidents as a bad guy chased by police onto school grounds, suicides, and so forth. The number cited is quoted by Nanny Bloomberg's pet gun grabber group.

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  • rlw895June 12, 2014 - 6:38 am

    That didn't sound right to me either. LW is still wrong though.

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  • PornacJune 12, 2014 - 7:11 am

    How do we keep guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable and the dangerous? Never mind, everyone needs a gun, it's a god given right. If you believe in god.

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  • DanielJune 12, 2014 - 7:27 am

    How about enforcing some of the 100's of gun laws on the books already (including immigration laws) or the mantra of just having issues and not doing about them is still the blueprint for Obama and the Demos to remain in polticial power?

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  • bustJune 12, 2014 - 4:29 pm

    I agree completely, Daniel. Right now there are around 10,000 gun laws in the US and most are only enforced when someone angers someone else in authority. Consider this quote from John Lott today, quoting sources in Great Britain: "It wasn’t supposed to happen in England, with its very strict gun-control laws. And yet last week, Derrick Bird shot twelve people to death and wounded eleven others in the northwestern county of Cumbria. A headline in the London Times read: “Toughest laws in the world could not stop Cumbria tragedy.” People are the problem. Take away the guns and they will use knives, bricks, bats, even the jawbone of an ass.

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  • CD BrooksJune 12, 2014 - 4:35 pm

    Wow the same number of gun laws as interpretations of the bible. And both getting about the same results. Go figure.

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  • bustJune 12, 2014 - 4:38 pm

    I mention the jawbone of an ass and who pops up?

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  • bustJune 12, 2014 - 4:39 pm

    I apologize, CD. You presented just too big a target; I couldn't remove my post. Sorry

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  • CD BrooksJune 12, 2014 - 4:45 pm

    bust, no apologies necessary. I walked right into that one!

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  • BobJune 12, 2014 - 7:54 am

    First check how many Drs have killed people through neglect, then add in illegal operating of automobiles, don't forget kitchen knives, overdoses from illegal drugs and you'll find death by gunshot to be very small compared to any of those. Then subtract the number of people that have saved lives or have saved a life with a firearm (NRA can provide the number) and you'll be amazed because this number is never mentioned. An armed shopper in Walmart tried to stop the husband in the Arizona shooting only to be shot by his wife but this man gave his life to try to stop this killing rampage, mark one for the good guys. So before bad mouthing guns please check existing laws and you'll find them more then adequate to solve most of the problems if they were followed. Don't forget buyers mental health, now that's a law we could use along with the above mentioned make parents liable for minor children

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  • CD BrooksJune 12, 2014 - 8:02 am

    One of my favorite challenges in communication is "context is king." Many here don't get that but I digress. One of my favorite challenges when it comes to law is "enforcement is king." If you look around you'll see why we are so over-run by bad guys. If the laws are enforced crime is reduced. Simple right? right.

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  • CD BrooksJune 12, 2014 - 7:55 am

    If you wish to challenge Mr. Willmschen you will have to do so via "letters" as he does not visit here. Be forewarned, he has no desire or intention to debate your theory.

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  • BobJune 12, 2014 - 8:01 am

    And I forgot, boom if you ever need help and I'm carrying, I'll still try to help

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  • boomJune 12, 2014 - 1:22 pm

    @Bob-Same goes for you, but I'd probably have to stab them out since I'm an ex convict not entitled to carry arms anymore. Did about 3 years in prison for 3 ex felon in possession of a firearm 12020(a). I stopped carrying a gun after I was shot, made me rethink having a tool on me that could so easily take a human life. Chew on that.

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  • bustJune 12, 2014 - 2:57 pm

    Boom, since you base your bombast on a totally false piece of information fed to gullible you by the gun grabbers, why should we believe anything else you have to say. "One mass shooting every 7.33 days in America." False! "74 school shootings..." False. Do you have any truth to offer?

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  • boomJune 12, 2014 - 6:18 pm

    Bust-Totally false says you, an unidentified commenter on the daily republic. Do you have a story, quote or statistic to back up your claims like I do? If you do, then please present them to the class, if not, you're full of hot air like the rest of them.

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  • bustJune 12, 2014 - 7:52 pm

    boom, you do not have a "story, quote or statistic to back up your claims..." You presented nothing but the bogus information being spread by Nanny Bloomberg's pet gun grabbing group. If you have any real facts, you have not presented them. My information comes from just a few minutes online, gathered from National Review Online, Washington Post, and others sources. Please see "School Shooting Claims Debunked"by Chuck Ross in the Daily Caller, posted 4:04 PM on -6/11/2014. You can also find that CNN has backed away from the false claims you tout. So do a little research and get back to us readers. Explain to us how your 74 shrinks to much less than half that number when exposed to the light of day, will you? And if you want to learn more, read "Gun Control and Mass Murders" by John Lott in National Review Online posted 4:00 AM on 06/11/2014. You can call him names but you cannot dispute the facts he presents.

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  • boomJune 12, 2014 - 8:59 pm

    In case you didn't notice busty, that was actually out of todays USA today edition. Sidestepping and nitpicking doesn't change the fact that guns are the easiest way for a person in America to kill another person. We all read the paper here, how many homicides in Fairfield this year? How many were with a gun. Now that's a FACT you can't deny.

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  • bustJune 13, 2014 - 7:00 am

    OK, boomer: you led us right back to the item about the killings in Cumbria, England, to wit: "Last week Derrick Bird shot twelve people and wounded eleven others in the northwestern county o f Cumbria. A headline in the London Times read: 'Toughest laws in the world could not stop Cumbria tragedy.'" Guns are not the problem; PEOPLE are the problem. And once again, just in case some reader is joining us late: The "statistics" you quote are bogus, phony, not real, made up, sheer lies designed to inflame opinions.

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  • 2realJune 12, 2014 - 11:03 am

    How bout we just roll over and succomb to north korea

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  • rlw895June 12, 2014 - 8:58 pm

    Wouldn't we have to get them over here first? They can't afford the fare.

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