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Columnist Kirchubel doesn’t know facts

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From page A8 | November 17, 2012 |

When I open up the newspaper and see yet another insipid column by Mr. Kirchubel, I am seriously tempted to cancel my subscription. Is this the best Fairfield can do for a “columnist?” I suspect there are others out there who feel the same as I do.

As usual, I could only get through the first paragraph, which contained his usual infantile “analysis.” He wrote, “Truth, justice and the American way won out over lies and all that money.” Really? If he would dig into facts, he would find that Mr. Obama is the one who lies and withholds the truth, and Mr. Obama also spent a lot of money on the campaign. By the way, Mr. Obama is one of those “rich” people.

Why does Mr. Kirchubel feel it is the government’s right and obligation to take money from the rich? I have a sneaking feeling that since he has not been successful in his life, he is a wee bit jealous of the rich and successful.

And yes, rich people do create jobs. While Mr. Kirchubel speaks of scientists finally finding a way to get money out of the rich, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that when rich people spend money on all kinds of goods and services they are creating jobs: the retail establishments, the factories or businesses that produce the goods and services, the delivery of such, the people who have jobs at those establishments who in turn spend money and so on and so forth.

Oh, and in case Mr. Kirchubel doesn’t understand this, those nasty rich people usually buy more goods and services than us poor people, and by doing so, pay more in taxes than we poor people.

Patricia Sivigliano

Fairfield

Letter to the Editor

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  • Mike kirchubelNovember 17, 2012 - 6:20 am

    Thank you for reading the introductory paragraphs of my articles.

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  • Danny BuntinNovember 17, 2012 - 7:25 am

    No worries Mike, she sounds like she will extend a helping hand - in your time of need. You are not wealthy, so obviously your life is a failure based on her litmus test. The rich really do create jobs, because that is their mission in life. To make sure every person has a job. This woman no doubt has a picture of herself with the caption "Job Creator of the Year". Talk about sticking your nose in the air, to the little people whom might be lucky enough to work for such a giving boss. Sounds more to me like she is upset that people are not buying into her form of trickle down economics. Lady it has never worked, jobs are created by demand from consumers, not by your generosity of hiring people do to your self imagined big heart.

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  • Guess Who?November 17, 2012 - 8:55 am

    I still love you Mike!...ooops kind of flirting again.....Well really I just like you alot (on some days, at some specific times, when you write about some specific things, AOT = At Other Times, not so much). No guts, No glory, correct!

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  • Mike kirchubelNovember 17, 2012 - 10:17 am

    Thanks, STR. Im happy with just a few of you guys liking me every once in a while. No great expectations here. It appears as though some of the corporatists have licked their wounds And are coming back out into the daylight again.

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  • RichNovember 17, 2012 - 12:52 pm

    Reading your columns is like having to listen to Hitler or North Korea's leaders--its horrible and intolerable. None of us want to hear how everything is the citizen and taxpayer's fault and that we should just fork more over for tyrants like Obama to decide.

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  • rlw895November 17, 2012 - 2:31 pm

    Mike: That's right, your first paragraph is usually provocative, and you follow up with the support of your research. To criticize you for provoking in an opinion column is strange, especially when the critic doesn't dispute your facts with facts of her own, just more provocative opinion. The irony.

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 17, 2012 - 5:00 pm

    RLW: GMAB. There is not one RELEVANT fact in MK's recent column that backs up his first paragraph thesis ("Truth, justice and the American way won out over lies and all that money"). Sounds like you don't agree with a "tit for tat" exchange in the DR arena. Opinions do matter. Let's quit poo-pooing those of us who offer them. After all, Mr. K. does it all the time.

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  • rlw895November 17, 2012 - 10:01 pm

    Fair enough Tom. I wasn't thinking about that specific column, but I should have.

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  • Yes good idea Mr. Chalk....November 18, 2012 - 11:22 am

    Maybe we should just foo foo each other if we do not agree.

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  • rlw895November 18, 2012 - 12:23 pm

    So let's do our own fact search to see if Mike's thesis is supported. No one can argue about who won the election, and we can skip over "truth, justice, and the American way," and just focus on "truth," which is checkable. So, what's your favoite Obama whopper? Or same for Romeny? Or better yet, if you're an Obama supporter, rat him out and tell us what you think was his biggest lie. Romney supporters can do the same for Romeny. I'm an Obama supporter, so I'll start. I think Obama's claim to be a protector of civil rights is waylaid by his clinging to the powers usurped by the Bush administration in the name of national security. I also think his claim that Romney-Ryan would return to the fiscal policies of the Bush years was overblown. No one wants to do that. I'm also not convinced, yet, that Obama is committed to the middle class.

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  • rlw895November 20, 2012 - 3:04 pm

    No takers? We can't start solving problems together until we stop fighting with each other. Playing my game would help. But OK.

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  • Sir VesaNovember 20, 2012 - 3:12 pm

    RLW: WDGS?

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  • rlw895November 20, 2012 - 4:31 pm

    SirV: ?

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  • Sir VesaNovember 20, 2012 - 4:43 pm

    RLW: Please refer to my commentary on What Does Google Say?(WDGS) under the Attacks on President Obama Unfounded thread. I believe it will fundamentally change this website as we know it.

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 18, 2012 - 2:13 pm

    Yes, let's. But it's "poo poo," not "foo foo." Foo foo is a cheap cologne. To "foo foo" someone, you must douse them in cheap cologne. Come to think of it, not a bad idea. Not bad at all. But to disagree with someone is ok, too. No need to bludgeon each other with "fact" after "fact" on each and every post, is there?

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  • She who laffs last, laffs bestNovember 18, 2012 - 2:38 pm

    **********Foo foo - An adjective describing something that is very pretty or cute but has no real utilitarian value. Something that is nice to look at but serves no other purpose. See this is nicer. ?, or am I just cuckoo. Better be nice to me or I will "clean your clock" MR......(means to thoroughly take someone to task)

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  • Tom ChalkNovember 18, 2012 - 2:55 pm

    Foo foo: Men's cologne or aftershave.--Urban Dictionary; definition number six. That's about as nice as I can put it:)

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  • CD BrooksNovember 17, 2012 - 7:42 am

    Seems the site is a little sluggish after a day off? Oh well, off to Culinary class, have a good day!

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  • jafNovember 17, 2012 - 8:10 am

    Patricia, I totally agree with you. Every time I see Mike Kirchubel's name on a post, I know it is going to be a condescending rant on everything conservative. I'd be interested in knowing what Mike does/did for a living. Whatever he did, you can be sure he wasn't a business owner who had to hire people, pay for their health care, etc. He is much to generous with other people's money. Makes me think he has little of his own. All of his writing is just sour grapes.

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  • JonesyNovember 17, 2012 - 10:28 am

    I find it amazing how Mikes column inspires so many readers to write so many letters to the editor. I find it even more amazing that they can do so based on only reading the first paragraph. These folks are the type that can form an opinion based solely on headlines & FOX. Keep up the good work Mike. I enjoy reading your column(even past the first paragraph)& posts.

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  • Mike kirchubelNovember 17, 2012 - 11:42 am

    Thanks, everybody. I think the DR editors like to know that somebody is reading the paper , even if they say they hate the writers. I consider the hate mail to be a plus. And Its Not like i dont know that im irritating some people by confronting their biases And prejudices. i think maybe soneone will read beyond the first paragraph And be so outraged that they will do some reasearch And find out the truth for themselves. on second thought, probably wont ever happen.

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  • Glen FaisonNovember 17, 2012 - 1:21 pm

    @Mike Kirchubel: You're putting yourself out there, which is more than most people can say. Material on the opinion page should provoke thought, and should expose people to a variety of viewpoints. Whether or not everyone agrees with your point of view is not important: What's important is that people think about what they believe, and why they believe it. In that sense you, and our other local columnists, are providing a very real public service.

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  • The SugarJarNovember 17, 2012 - 1:28 pm

    Test.

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  • Mike kirchubelNovember 17, 2012 - 1:28 pm

    Thank you, Glen. Very much appreciated.

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