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• RichNovember 20, 2012 - 9:09 am

  Thats not true charlie. Obama's extra-constitutional and list of usurptions is very long. Lets start with his bona fides and documentation. Where's the passport records, college applications and transcripts? Lets see them! Foreigners are not supposed to be president and Hussein smacks of being a foreign born communist muslim out to destroy all--clearly the choice of California voters.

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• DJKNovember 20, 2012 - 9:38 am

  Strange how since the election has been over for 2 weeks a few of the regular posters on DR are not to be found. Were they paid plants by the Republicans to frequent forums and spin? Where's Marci been lately?

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• JonesyNovember 20, 2012 - 10:02 am

  Gary (G-man, AKA the Plant) honored his word (so far) and crawled back into his hole. Marci is still pruning her nose back & feeding the trimmings to the wood chipper after all the lies she told.

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• Sir VesaNovember 20, 2012 - 10:30 am

  Introducing WDGS (What Does Google Say?). As a public service to fellow DR website members, I humbly submit that we can save time and aggravation from now on by responding to Mr. McLaughlin and others who demand "facts" on this board with a simple, WDGS? We all use Google nowadays, right? Why go through the hassle of consulting Google then transferring our factual nuggets here? From now on I say, WDGS. Let's take the drudgery out of fact-finding and reporting here. WDGS? Lots of stuff. Take your pick, according to your own sensibilities and preferences. Then just respond with a simple, WDGS?

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• FMM (French male model)November 20, 2012 - 10:48 am

  Bonjour, I get all my info from the Daily Currant site.

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• Danny BuntinNovember 20, 2012 - 12:58 pm

  That site is a riot full of laughs. Unfortunately the lampooning does run parallel with how some people perceive things.

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• FMMNovember 20, 2012 - 3:04 pm

  Au Contraire Monsieur Bunting. I was merely pointing out that you can not believe everything you see on the web. No?! In a funny sorta way. Oui?! Now excusez-moi, I have zee date with an American Gal whom I told, all French Male Models have zee hairy backs & she should love me for it.

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• FMMNovember 20, 2012 - 3:37 pm

  Anyways Danny, back to reality...I actualy posted a couple of things from that site here to see if anyone would bite or run with it & even Marci LOL...The latest on it about the Romneys "Gifts" comment is a riot...Not PC...But a riot...

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• rlw895November 20, 2012 - 4:37 pm

  SirV: Ah, I see. But you can't use that dodge. What we want to know is what YOU believe, regardless of your source. Tell us your source too, but telling someone to do their own research is useless. If you can't back up your belief, or it isn't as fact-based as you claim, "man up" and say so.

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• CD BrooksNovember 20, 2012 - 6:06 pm

  rlw895, you are SO right! After four years of endless research and trying to curb the incessant lies on these pages, I found telling everyone that the truth is there, go check it out was just plain futile. Then I was accused of all sorts of nonsense that we now know was just because it was easier for them to deny my efforts and the truth as well! Obama is back and America is going to be better because of it.

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• Sir VesaNovember 20, 2012 - 7:38 pm

  RLW: Like CD before me, I have laid out a masterpiece of wisdom and guidance to the visitors on this website, only to be rebuffed by the very folks I was trying to lift up and free from their narrow, humorless and cloistered mindsets. So be it. I now declare the WDGS movement a thing of the past. Pity.

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• CD BrooksNovember 20, 2012 - 9:33 pm

  Sir Vesa, clearly we have differing view points on fact vs fiction. Not going to waste any more of my time here.

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• ProConNovember 20, 2012 - 11:34 am

  I'm not "anti-Obama" so much as "pro-Constitution," but I'll give a few examples: 1) making recess appointments while Congress was in session (US Const. Art. II Sec. 2); 2) the administration's contempt of court by continuing the offshore drilling ban (after the BP oil spill) after it was struck down by a federal judge (US Const. Art. III Sec. 2); and 3) interfering in the management of a private company by forcing the CEO of GM to resign (there is simply nothing in the Constitution that could be construed as giving any branch of the federal government that kind of power).

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• cliff bensonNovember 20, 2012 - 1:35 pm

  And..the so-called Patriot Act enacted by Bush....thats constitutional? Personally, my faith in the majority voter has been rewarded. I recall an October pro-Romney .....(well, any Republican)....; panel on FOX. One stated that statistically he could predict a landslide for Romney...which brought bright smiles and self-congratulated exuberance by the panel members. Election nite...and when Ohio voted for Obama...I had to jump to FOX...and see that awful constipated and stunned look on the face of Karl Rove. After all he had encouraged and chaired the $300 million cost by him and his Billion Boys Club in an effort to buy Washington. With bluster and disbelief he cried "No, Wait" and caused on-air red-faced embarrassment for FOX predicters. In the nites that followed, I had to watch FOX, particularly Hannity, O'Reilly and Sustern read from the Republican script. I almost felt sorry for their awkward stumbling and pathetic digging for anti-Obama stuff to offset Romney's (and FOX's) election defeat. Congrats America! You prevented the all-white Billionaire Boy's Club from buying America;

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• rlw895November 20, 2012 - 4:44 pm

  ProCon: That's a good list, but I also agree with Cliff. The worst constitutional abuse in recent memory is the Patriot Act, and the Supreme Court, everytime it has had a chance, has essentially said so. That's why we have courts. I have not yet seem the Obama administration fail to comply with a Supreme Court ruling. Lower courts are not final if appealed. And "complying" is sometimes doing the same thing another way. I'm sure ACA was prominently on your list before the Supreme Court ruling last summer.

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• ProConNovember 20, 2012 - 5:38 pm

  I absolutely agree about the Patriot Act, but the original topic was about Obama. If we expand the list to past presidents, it would be a long list. "I have not yet seem the Obama administration fail to comply with a Supreme Court ruling. Lower courts are not final if appealed." So lower court rulings don't have to be complied with? Or have I misunderstood you?

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• rlw895November 20, 2012 - 11:17 pm

  SirV: Yes. Lower courts often stay their decision pending appeal, and sometimes a higher court orders the decision stayed until it can rule on an appeal. The buck stops with the Supreme Court, if a case gets that far. There is some argument that Congress and the President have equal authority to interpret the Constitution, but for over 200 years, ever since Marbury v. Madison (1803), we have tacitly agreed to the judiciary's claim of final constitutional interpretation and judicial review. During the Republican primary, Newt Gingrich dredged up the idea that the President does not have to follow the courts' constitutional interpretations, to nearly universal ridicule. But there is some legal and historical basis for that view. Obama is not making the same claim; he will undoubtedly comply with Supreme Court rulings no matter how bad he thinks they are, and some of them are pretty bad, like Citizen's United.

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