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Talk show hosts to address tea party group

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From page A8 | February 12, 2014 |

VACAVILLE — Talk show radio hosts Mark Anthony and Doug Tawlks, known as the Patriot and the Preacher, will speak Feb. 19 at the Vaca Valley Tea Party about how politics and religion do mix.

“Faith played a crucial role in the founding of our nation,” local tea party officials said in a press release, “and Christians have the opportunity to play a critical role today in our country’s future.”

The two men host a show on KNEW. Pizza and salad will be served for a fee. The meeting takes place from 6 to 8 p.m. at Pietro’s No. 2, 679 Merchant St. in Vacaville.

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  • Jason KnowlesFebruary 11, 2014 - 1:30 pm

    In other words, "Here's a primer on how to force Biblical principles on everybody else!" Sorry, I like my Constitution without a side order of dogmatism, thank you.

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  • You Know WhoFebruary 11, 2014 - 1:52 pm

    The Pedantic Prig just has to jump in with his complaint before, repeat before, the event. Jason, Jason, do you wish to deny citizens the right to assemble, to speak, or to exercise their right to practice their religion? Does their activity cause you any harm? Do you want to control what goes on in their minds? Stop whining, Jason. Leave us alone and we will do the same for you.

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  • Jason KnowlesFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:00 pm

    Uh, Franklin, did I say I was going to file a cease and desist order to stop this assembly? No. Did I say the followers of this faith should not be allowed to practice? No. Never even implied that I did. I'd love to leave the Tea Party alone, but you're the ones (according to the press release that one of your members wrote) imposing values of faith onto others via legislation. Your knee jerk reaction is typical of you. I simply voiced my objections, as is my right. Nothing more. I know this is tough for you, Sweetheart, but try and have a nice day, Franklin.

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  • Puddin TaneFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:11 pm

    It's hard to take your claim that your group will "leave us alone" seriously when your group is an activist group that seeks to insert religion into government, be it through pro-life amendments or policies favoring creationism/"intelligent" design. We're not interested in going to the Tea Party version of the Dark Ages.

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  • Puddin TaneFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:00 pm

    Since the Tea Party loves Thomas Jefferson, I wonder what these two guys would say about this quote: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise therof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State." - Thomas Jefferson, 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptist Association I mean, Jefferson is the go-to guy about matters of the Constitution, right?

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  • Jason KnowlesFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:14 pm

    Puddin, I guess the discussion starts with what TJ meant by the phrase "the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions" is where the discussion starts. For most people of faith, action and opinion are one and the same. They have a difficult time "rendering unto Caesar" and calling it a day. For people like Anthony and Tawlks, they are not happy enough with living their life according to the precepts of their faith, which I have absolutely no problem with. But Scripture (of all three Abrahamic religions) is very clear about mandating that their followers convert us heathens no matter the cost. They want those precepts imposed on the rest of us, and that is where folks like me draw the line.

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  • Puddin TaneFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:33 pm

    You hit the nail on the head, Jason, though I would add that the "convert or burn" types like these guys are a fringe of those practicing their faith and not the rule. Fundamentalists of all stripes (Christians Jewish, and Muslim) seem to have quite a hard time reconciling the inconsistencies if their doctrines to the world most of us live in, which lead to extreme reactions against anything that challenges their faith's worldview (see geocentrism and evolution, amongst others). Maybe it has something to do with the fact that these folks are incredibly afraid of death, which has led them to establish paradises for themselves(heaven) and damnation for their adversaries, and that anything that points out the inconsistencies in their dogma threatens their view of their safety net from death? Just a thought.

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  • CD BrooksFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:34 pm

    Jason, abso-friggin-lutely, thank you so much! That is precisely what I've been saying about the GOP since forever. Their goal is crystal clear and they won't stop until they can figure a way around the Constitution, the Tea Party's alleged claims notwithstanding.

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  • CD BrooksFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:02 pm

    FDC, your illustrious group has pretty much humiliated the GOP right out of existence. Thank you for that you and your fellow Tea Party supporters. No really, thank you!

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  • You Know WhoFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:44 pm

    I guess I used a word that the robot didn’t like so I will try again. Here goes: Got you guys going, didn’t I? Jason did his usual “Not Me, I’m Holier Than Thou” routine, “Puddin Tane” did his/her/its usual unsupported blast, and CD attributes much more power to the tea party than it deserves. All of you seem determined to demean, insult, and offend anyone who thinks differently than you. I’ll never understand why ordinary hard working, tax paying, family-oriented citizens who choose to assemble and discuss current events are such a threat to you. What are you afraid of? If we are so ineffective, then ignore us. CD says we are wrecking the GOP. If so, most of us believe that it is about time since there is not a nickel’s worth of difference between the DNC and the GOP. “Puddin Tane” thinks the citizens of the tea party want to take us back to the Dark Ages while he/she/it ignores the headlong rush of the current Administration into “1984” and the “Brave New World”. In any case, getting you guys going is like kicking an ant hill and watching the pismires scurry and scramble. I guess next we can expect to hear from the Paraphrasing Prig and the Bureaucratic Prig. Oh what fun we have!

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  • CD BrooksFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:50 pm

    FDC, nice try but too late. The cat's all ready out and down the road. But it's been fun!

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  • Jason KnowlesFebruary 11, 2014 - 2:55 pm

    Nice to see that Word-A-Day calendar is being put to good use. Frankiln, your Tea Party's ideas, like all ideas, are bullet-proof. It is when you seek to legislate those ideas (as they pertain to religion in the public square) that bother me. As I have said, I actually agree with your friends about the size of government and the scope of their reach (sometimes). However, I have a problem with what seems to be your collective goal of imposing Christianity (or any religion) on the rest of us, which runs counter to your ideal of fidelity to the Constitution. You characterize the Tea Party as being "...ordinary hard working, tax paying, family-oriented citizens..." as if the rest of us are lazy, tax scofflaws who hate families.

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  • You Know WhoFebruary 11, 2014 - 3:02 pm

    Jason, your last sentence is nothing more than an extrapolation trying to move the discussion beyond what has been said. You just made that up to try to offend or insult but it just won't work. Shoo! Go try to insult someone who won't talk back.

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  • Jason KnowlesFebruary 11, 2014 - 3:06 pm

    Offend or insult??? How on Earth do you get that I am trying to insult or offend based on that sentence? What color is the sky on your planet, Franklin?

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  • @ Jason and the ArguealotsFebruary 11, 2014 - 6:21 pm

    OK let us drop Religion for a moment....So Jason how likely do you think it is that we will have a near total economic collapse?....How much longer can we just go on printing/digitizing money?

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  • You Know WhoFebruary 16, 2014 - 3:43 pm

    Sorry I waited so long to answer. Jason, your little snarky barb re the Word-A-Day calendar, whatever that is, reminds me that when one addresses you, one should use words of only one or two syllables. Otherwise, you have to run to your Webster's and then issue another bon mot proving your brilliance (or lack thereof). go bully your students, Jason, it won't work when you are in the arena with adults.

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  • Puddin TaneFebruary 11, 2014 - 3:50 pm

    Quote from Jefferson re: separation of church and state (a policy folks like you tend to dislike), juxtaposed against the ideology of Tea Partiers like yourself = unsupported blast. Got it. Just out of curiosity, would I have to duplicate the "methods" of Beck and Limbaugh in order to make a "supported" blast? And do you, Franklin, not support faith based policies like the ones championed by social conservatives? If so, then my posts are spot on.

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  • You Know WhoFebruary 11, 2014 - 4:23 pm

    PT, please tell me what one of those "faith based policies " is and then I will answer.

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  • Puddin TaneFebruary 12, 2014 - 9:45 am

    Well, we can start with Prop 8 and all related pieces of legislation, then we can move on to the restrictions on stem cell research imposed under Bush (based on pro-life), followed by the efforts made around the country to teach "intelligent" design in science classrooms (saying "the universe is complex like a clock, there must be a clockmaker" is not science). Oh, and most pro-life efforts tend to be faith based. Yup, that seems to cover the basics.

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